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By Abercrombie Energy Public Company Renewables Utilities

02 Jan: NRG Energy (NRG) CFO Kirk Andrews – Follow-Up Interview – The Stock Podcast, Ep.46

NRG Energy’s CFO Kirk Andrews rejoins The Stock Podcast to provide a business update. Tune in to hear Kirk describe NRG’s path to investment grade and what that could mean for the equity value of the company.

NRG is an integrated power producer. The company owns generation assets that primarily sell power at wholesale prices. NRG also operates a large portfolio of retail electricity companies. The integrated nature of NRG’s asset portfolio provides investors with stable cashflows. When power prices are high, the generation business benefits. When power prices are low, the retail business benefits. It’s an impressive mousetrap with high barriers to entry.  

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By Abercrombie Energy Industrials Infrastructure Midstream Public Company Renewables Utilities

18 Sep: Duke Austin – CEO of Quanta Services (PWR) – The Stock Podcast, Ep.37

Duke Austin is the CEO & COO of Quanta Services (PWR). Quanta provides E&C contracting services and comprehensive infrastructure solutions for electric and gas utilities, oil and gas companies, and the communications industry. Tune in to hear Duke describe his business, the outlook for US energy infrastructure and 5G build-out, and the financial goals Quanta is targeting.

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By Abercrombie Energy Renewables Teach-In

27 Apr: Anhydrous Ammonia (NH3) with Norm Olson – The Stock Podcast, Ep.29

Anhydrous ammonia isn’t well-known as an alternative source of fuel, but it’s economic and environmental attributes make it a very compelling alternative to hydrocarbons. That’s why the IwtB Podcast is extremely honored to have Norm Olson on the program to explain some important characteristics of NH3. My favorite quote from this interview really sums up how fascinating anhydrous ammonia is. “It’s kind of a miracle how well this thing works in so many different applications.” If you’re a fan of, or just interested in hydrogen, this is a great interview to listen to. Norm was the Program Manager for Biomass and Alternative Fuels at the Iowa Energy Center and the President of the NH3 Fuel Association. Norm is one of the foremost experts on anhydrous ammonia and one of the biggest champions of NH3 as an alternative energy source.

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By Abercrombie Energy Public Company Renewables Utilities

12 Mar: Bob Frenzel – CFO of Xcel Energy (XEL) – The Stock Podcast, Ep.27

Bob Frenzel is the CFO at Xcel Energy (XEL), one of the largest and greenest utilities in the US. Tune in to the Buyside podcast to hear Bob breakdown everything you’ve wanted to know about utility investing. Topics discussed include the regulatory process, renewable energy, carbon-free target, replacement cost, and how to value utilities.

In this interview, you’ll hear Bob talk about some of the elements that are required for a utility to be, well, a great utility. You’ll also hear about Xcel’s carbon-free ambitions and what the company will have to do to achieve their targets. And here’s a spoiler, achieving a carbon-free generation portfolio isn’t solely based on wind, solar, and batteries. The solution is actually much more complicated than pundits would like you to believe.

Bob also does a great job of describing just what the regulatory process is like for a utility, how a utility justifies spending money that we, as ratepayers, essentially pay for, and Bob also talks a little about how a utility determines the rates that we as customers must pay. As someone who likes to talk about the future of electric generation and utilities, having Bob on the program is a real treat, but for me, there are two really interesting topics that are discussed.

The first is the fact that regulated utilities don’t generate a ton of free cash flow. That’s because they’re constantly reinvesting into the grid. The second relates to replacement cost or replacement value. I won’t spoil that last one. It’s a doozy, at least for the value investors out there!

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By Abercrombie Energy Infrastructure Public Company Renewables Utilities

09 Oct: Tom O’Flynn – CFO of AES Corporation (AES) – The Stock Podcast, Ep.17

Tom O’Flynn is the CFO of AES Corporation (AES). Tom provides a great overview of AES Corporation’s business model. He also discusses some really interesting catalysts for the company and highlights a compelling investment case for the shares of AES’ stock.

AES is a power company, but it’s different from regulated utilities, IPPs, and yieldcos, yet at the same time has similar characteristics. The asset portfolio includes traditional generation facilities, renewables, and a lot of the essential infrastructure required to produce and transmit electricity. Since the current management took the reins in 2011, they’ve pruned the portfolio, with more than $5B in asset sales over the past 7 years and exited 13 countries. During that time, management reduced parent level debt by $2B, cut costs by $300M, and they’ve returned almost $3B of cash to shareholders.

Part of the return to shareholders has been through dividends, and AES has also bought back about 16% of their stock since 2011. Another interesting fact is that the company has reduced coal generation capacity by about 20% over the past three years, and they’ve replaced a large portion of that capacity with renewable energy. De-risking the business has also been a key priority. Management has reduced AES’ FX exposure to around 15% from 40%.

Maybe one of the most interesting facts about AES Corp is that they are the largest owner of battery storage in the world, and the recently announced storage JV with Siemens called Fluence. The Fluence JV positions AES extremely well for the future. One of the reasons the battery JV is so interesting is because of the growth outlook. Generally speaking, growth investors aren’t interested in utilities. That’s because, double-digit earnings growth in utility-land is almost unheard of, at least not on multi-year outlook.

Another potentially big catalyst for AES Corp includes IMO 2020. This is a gross oversimplification, but IMO 2020 puts a cap on the amount of sulphur shipping vessels are allowed to use in fuel oil. This global regulation bodes well for global LNG demand. And with respect to debt, individual projects financed with non-recourse term debt, which means there is a natural deleveraging component to the business.

Something I like about this management team is that they’re focused on what they know, understand, and where they believe they have a competitive advantage. This perspective led to reducing the number of countries where they operate and becoming more acutely focused on developing and owning long-lived infrastructure assets.

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By Abercrombie Energy Public Company Renewables Utilities

01 Oct: Nathan Kroeker – CEO of Spark Energy (SPKE) – The Stock Podcast, Ep.16

Nathan Kroeker is the President and CEO of Spark Energy (SPKE). Tune in to hear Nathan describe Spark Energy’s business model and why he thinks SPKE stock is undervalued. Nathan also shares his thoughts on the outlook for the industry, and an explanation as to why the retail energy services business is misunderstood by the broader market. Most importantly, he outlines the most important aspects of the SPKE investment story and highlights the key elements of a really compelling investment idea.

Spark went public in 2014 and was largely considered a roll-up story. Retail electricity businesses were trading really low multiples. So, SPKE could use its public currency, which carried a higher multiple, to roll-up private retail business at lower multiples. Recently, however, Nathan Kroeker shifted the company’s priorities to organic growth, and to optimize the business. Management expects to achieve 20M in cost savings from some discrete integration initiatives, which is a big deal for a company that generates less than $100M in EBITDA. Cash flows could grow meaningfully next year for Spark, especially since earn-out payments from previous acquisitions will be completed by mid-2019.

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By Abercrombie Energy Public Company Renewables Utilities

17 Jul: Chad Plotkin – CFO of Clearway Energy (CWEN) – The Stock Podcast, Ep.13

Clearway Energy’s CFO Chad Plotkin joins the podcast to talk about the renewable energy business. Clearway Energy (CWEN), known previously as NRG Yield (NYLD), is one of the biggest owners of renewable energy facilities in the US. Tune in to hear Chad talk about the history of the company, the Global Infrastructure Partners (GIP) acquisition, and how CWEN’s diversified asset portfolio differentiates this yieldco from the others. It’s an extremely insightful interview, especially for investors who want to learn more about the natural deleveraging that occurs for renewable energy businesses.

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By Abercrombie Energy Investor/Analyst Midstream Renewables Teach-In Utilities

04 Jul: Steve Fleishman – Wolfe Research Utility Analyst – The Stock Podcast, Ep.12

Steve Fleishman is a Managing Director and Senior Analyst at Wolfe Research. Steve and his team cover the utilities, power, renewables, and midstream sectors at Wolfe Research. Steve has been Wall Street’s top-ranked utility analyst 14 times, so it’s an enormous honor to have him on the podcast! Tune in to hear Steve provide a great utility primer including a brief history of utilities, trends he and his team are following, and some of his thoughts on utility valuations today.

Steve agreed to come onto the program to give listeners of The Stock Podcast a utility primer. So, if you have an interest in utility investing, or you just like to gain an understanding of how utility investors think about the sector, this episode may be what you’re looking for.

You may recall from the Chris Sighinolfi interview that sector specialists like Steve know their industries forward and backward and Steve is a prime example of this. Steve has a reputation for being an extremely thoughtful analyst. If you listen to an earnings call with any of the big utilities, you’ll hear why. He asks questions that, in and of themselves, have a lot of meaning.

Apart from being one of the best analysts on Wall Street, Steve is one of the nicest guys I’ve met in the industry. He’s genuinely concerned about people, as well as their stock-picking performance. He was also one of a handful of Wall Street analysts that actually reached out to me after I quit my job to start this podcast. I consider myself fortunate to be able to call Steve a friend and he’s doing me and my listeners a big honor by coming onto the podcast.

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